MARY O'KEEFE
TALKS TO TOM ARDEN
Tom Arden started
his writing career with a bang - selling a five volume fantasy sequence
on the strength of a brilliant proposal and a fifty page sample. Unfortunately
the fifty pages were all he had written, so the rest of the first volume
was finished in six weeks of the summer vacation from his then job as
a university lecturer.
During this intense period of writing the universe he was creating become
totally real to him. Following each day's session he would return to
real world "completely spaced out", as he says. That book
was, he adds ruefully, the only one of the series to be completed on
time so far.
He was born in Mount Gambier in South Australia but came to UK in his
late twenties. Although his father was Australian his mother was English
and he "felt a bit of a hybrid".
"One of the problems I had with fiction was that I don't have a
natural place to write about.
"I grew up in Australia but all the books I read as a child were
English books. I was probably the last generation of children to be
brought up in a colonial manner. I read books about English public schools
and children having holiday adventures in the Lake District. So I was
always imagining places far away. Books were always about places that
were not where I was.
"When I was trying to write 'serious fiction' I had this idea that
you were supposed to write about your own reality, things that were
outside your door. So when I was quite young and still living in Australia
I was trying to write quite painfully Australian stories - Australian
dialect and lots of Australian incidents happening.
"Didn't get anywhere with that.
"Then I tried to write painfully English things. I was obsessed
with the novels of Iris Murdoch."
After graduating
in English Literature, he naturally gravitated towards the British Isles,
accepting a lectureship at Queen's University of Belfast.
Surprisingly, after eight years in the job, he has no trace of Irish
in his accent, although he still retains a slight Australian twang.
He was not personally affected by the Troubles, but found the experience
of living in Northern Ireland both fascinating and unsettling.
What made a lecturer
in eighteenth century literature want to write fantasy?
"I think I
fell into fantasy by default. For a very long time I was trying to write
realistic novels and not succeeding. One reason was that all of my realistic
novels started to get these fantastical elements in them. I never perceived
myself as a genre writer. I had fallen out of reading science fiction
and fantasy in my late teens. I spent so many years studying English
Literature and thinking there was only one kind of thing that was 'serious'.
I had all those prejudices drummed in good and proper. I never even
recognised the weird things I was writing as genre elements, I was so
cut off from it.
"I had written two unpublished novels, the second of which was
almost science fiction. At that stage I was prepared to give up trying.
At about the same time, the early nineties, I started to pick up on
sf and fantasy. It was actually through reading Interzone. The first
one I got was a special fantasy edition (#60) And I thought - hey I
could do this!
"I started to venture into the parts of the bookshops where they
sold sf and fantasy. I hadn't been there for a long time because I could
still remember being at university and having this lecturer who would
deliberately make sneering remarks about writers like Tolkein, utterly
disparaging anyone who would descend to such trash. I had got the idea
into my head that all of this stuff was absolute garbage, even though
I now recognise, of course, that a huge amount of classic English literature
is just fantasy, but not called it.
"There was a particular moment that finally decided me. It was
when I first went to the Czech Republic in 1994. On the first night
I was there I had this sense of being in an alternative reality, because
it was like where we come from, but there were all these things that
were different. And I thought of doing a story that would be kind of
like our world but not."
I asked about the
fantasy elements that kept interjecting themselves into the "serious"
work.
"Well, I wrote
this rather Daphne Du Maurier thing, about this young girl who goes
to a gothic mansion in Cornwall, and all these increasingly bizarre
things started to happen. There's a godlike figure who turns up and
started rearranging the destinies of all the characters. It started
out realistic and
just got stranger.
"I spent ages on various versions of this novel and could never
get it published. Fortunately I've since revised it quite extensively,
and I'm finally pleased with the result. I'd call it a dark comic fantasy.
It's called Shadow Black and it's coming out next year. It's very weird
and I
think it contains some of the best characters I've created, so I'll
be keen to see what people make of it.
"But the original version just couldn't get published at the time
- not satisfactory to people who wanted mainstream novels, nor to people
who wanted genre fiction.
"I suppose I gradually realised, after very long time, that whatever
interest and talent I had was fantasy rather than anything else. That
was when I decided to focus on writing a full-on fantasy.
" I suppose I chose the most obvious thing you could possibly do
- a multi-volume sequence about people going on a quest.
"It was pure ignorance, from one point of view. I had only just
discovered this stuff myself. I've realised since that some people go,
oh not another fantasy quest with a map. But it was all quite new to
me, believe it or not, and I was excited by it.
"But I would like to think that, having started out with what is
admittedly a cliché, I've given it an original twist."
What was the initial
idea for this series?
"That's a
good question. Various things - the trip to the Czech Republic, where
I got the idea of the alternative reality. Seeing some Czech soldiers
in military uniform, and having the image of soldiers in strange uniforms.
Another thing I got from the Czech Republic was that somebody drew for
me this symbol which I use in the book. I call it the arc sword and
it's used throughout the series. The person who drew it claimed it was
some kind of mystic symbol - I don't know if it is or not. It hasn't
actually featured in the story yet, but it will at the end.
"So I had this idea of an alternative military force, an alternative
religion and so forth. At first it seemed a bit daunting and overwhelming,
how to go about it.
"I looked at some successful fantasy novels like David Eddings.
I got the idea of doing a five volume series from him. So I decided
to have five gods who can each figure in some different way, then have
five mystic crystals, one of which has to be discovered in each book.
That was inspired by the Doctor Who season The Key To Time, where each
story over a year was about the search for a different segment of the
key.
. "It got easier after I'd set up the basic structure. The characters
had got to go on a quest to find the five crystals of the Orokon, which
had been lost, so they would find one in each book.
"So then I said, okay, there's got to be a hero; there's got to
be a heroine. They have to have this tempestuous love affair - start
in volume one - part them in volume two - come together again in volume
three, parted again , come together again, who knows? I found when I
got down to write it, it just burgeoned.
" I will admit that at first I was thinking in very pragmatic terms.
I have got to get a book published. I've written all these novels. They've
been complete failures. I want to be a writer. what am I going to do?
" So I wanted to write a publishable book, and perhaps I shouldn't
say this, the most commercial book that I could possibly write. But
once I started to write it my attitude towards it became different,
and I started to see that I was really expressing myself through this
story. So instead of starting from the position I always did when starting
a literary novel - 'I'm going to express my inner self'; I just said
to myself, 'I'm going to write a genre book. I'm going to choose the
type of story and I'm going to write that.'
"The expression sort of comes around the edges and somehow you
find, when you work to a structure, you can do all the things that you
wanted to do in a better way than you could before. So I began to get
really involved in the lives of these characters and they became real
to me."
How did the series
come to be published??
"What happened
was, on the basis of the earlier unpublished novels, I had got an agent.
She had liked my first novel. She kept sending it round and round, and
the kind of comments I got were - we don't know how to categorise this.
- Is it a comic novel? - Dark gothic? ( I always get that).
"So when I got the fantasy idea, I produced a couple of chapters
and synopsis of volume one - quite an elaborate proposal document, about
100 pages long including about 50 pages of the beginning of the novel,
which was all I had written. In fact what is now the beginning was virtually
the same as my original proposal. And there was a synopsis of the rest
of volume one (which I didn't stick to) and a general blurb about what
the Orokon universe was all about; plus my crude version of the map
of the countries. I spent several months doing that ( the whole proposal,
not the map!).
"My agent wasn't quite sure what to do with it because she didn't
handle fantasies. She sent it to two publishers one of whom hated it.
The other editor was Jo Fletcher at Gollancz who loved it and wanted
to publish it.. My agent got both letters the same day!
"So suddenly I had a publishing contract and they wanted it delivered
in six months. At the time I had a really demanding full time job So
that's why the whole of the first volume was bashed out in only six
weeks. I got it done on time and, better yet, they actually liked it.
"I've since heard from Jo Fletcher that it was very unusual to
buy on a proposal particularly from an unknown . One of the things she
liked was that I was doing a fantasy novel set on a world ostensibly
based on the eighteenth century. When she found I was a lecturer in
eighteenth century literature she thought I could probably do it really
well. If I'd given her another medieval fantasy she probably wouldn't
have taken it."
The first volume
of the series, The Harlequin's Dance, contains a number of entertaining
digs at the foibles of eighteenth century life and letters. Did Tom
originally intend putting in all those joke references to period literature?
"When I started
to look at the fantasy genre I found so many of these books, following
the example of Tolkein, were based in a medieval setting. I knew nothing
about medieval life, and I've never liked medieval literature, Chaucer
and Beowulf - that sort of thing (no doubt a terrible confession for
someone who's meant to be a fantasy writer).
"Then I thought - hold on - Tolkein wrote about a medieval-type
world because he was a lecturer in medieval literature. I am a lecturer
in eighteenth century literature, so I will write about a an eighteenth
century world, because I can imagine it. I'm not interested in broadswords
and chain mail and I don't know anything about them.
" It was also a matter of economy and what to save on research.
I was going in every week to do these lectures on Alexander Pope and
Jonathan Swift and Daniel Defoe and Jane Austen, so I could just reel
them off. It was natural to me. And I could make jokes about it."
The language didn't
strike me as eighteenth century - the invented words like Orokon and
the names of the gods; and some of the inserted mythological stories.
"They were
out of my head. It's a hotch potch - not all out of the eighteenth century.
I'm saying, here is a world where they happen to have this mythology
of these five gods and everything, and they've now reached a level which
is something like our eighteenth century. I was interested in having
one of these invented universes with all these invented gods, and taking
it forward - not having it set in ancient times - having the technological
and political level much higher."
What about the twin kings, one good , one evil? Was Tom conscious of
the mythological background for that - the dark twin idea?
"It came from
the image of an eighteenth century army battling, the two sides in different
coloured costumes. I think the battle sequence in Stanley Kubrick's
"Barry Lyndon" was how I saw it. The idea of the two kings
was generated from that."
I was interested
by Tom's idea that the ostensibly "good" god is worshipped
by the most obnoxious puritans, whereas the "bad" god is worshipped
by the gypsy-like Vagas, who seem to be the good guys in the story.
"I was trying
to show the way in which people interpret religious ideas. The mythological
section at the beginning [of volume one] can be read ironically. We
don't have to take it on trust that the ones it says are good actually
are good. You eventually get to realise that Orok, the father god is
the most appalling old patriarch. The Vaga god, Koros, is actually incredibly
PC and liberal! The supposedly good ones are terribly snobbish and exclusivist.
"I also meant the prologue to be really irritating - for example
the female gods are created as mere subordinates. I hope people will
realise as the books go on that I meant all this ironically. I even
wonder, if there was ever a revised version, whether I might keep these
details for later in the book, rather than making them the prologue.
As the series progresses we will get to meet the gods and perhaps get
a better idea of how to judge them. I like the idea of setting up this
rigid system - these people are good - these people are bad - and then
as the book goes on it becomes much less clear."
Since leaving his
university post, Tom is now a full-time writer. So what was his next
project? Would he go back to "serious" writing?
"No - or rather, I think that what I'm doing now is serious writing.
I will certainly stay in fantasy or science fiction, or have very strong
links with the genre.
" I've found what I can do - now I want to do it better. I don't
want to say much about my next project yet, but I'm very excited about
it and I hope my readers will be too.."